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Offline Screamin Jay

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Witness #1 (Sister of Witness #2)
« on: July 04, 2012, 06:29:08 PM »
Here are some important things witness #1 says:
She says she was in the kitchen cooking dinner, window half open (sliding glass door?). Her kitchen is downstairs near the back of the house.
She heard a weird, screaming noise that sounded like a kid moaning, groaning, but it was garbled. Something like "No" or "ahh". Couldn't make out any words.
They were running in the back.
Her light was the only one on so it was very dark.
She looked out the window but couldn't see anything.
She went to the door and saw figures and moving arms flailing and couldn't make out anything more. Nothing in their hands.
She thought it was kids playing around, rough housing.
She saw her male neighbor across the way, witness #6, come out on his porch at the same time. (He says his porch light is always on.) He was wearing something dark on the top and sweat pants.
He asked the figures "What's going on?" and that he was going to call 911. No response. She had been looking out for about 20 seconds. Did not see Austin McLendon.
She intends to go outside because she thinks it's kids out there, so she went back to turn the stove off,
that's when she heard the shot.
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These statements will at times contradict the others. When all witnesses are aligned they will present a composite picture that may be added to what George, Frank, and DeeDee say. At times their subconscious may know more and better questions could bring it out. Notice she says witness #6 was outside on his porch. This is what witnesses 5 and 16 did; they came out on their porch right after the shot.
Lighting conditions can be reconstructed through witnesses. The porch light seems to impair one's own vision beyond the porch. Lights across the way might create silhouettes. Seems likely that more lights would be turned on as folks hear the disturbance and become alarmed.
I'm very interested in the times of these events. The sequence and timing can probably be created from merging and comparing all the witness accounts.
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Re: Witness #1
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2012, 08:11:27 PM »
witness #19 also saw/heard John (W-6) go out and ask what's going on and say he was going to call 911. It's in Serino's interview of her on March 10 (track 1.)

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Re: Witness #1
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2012, 10:51:23 PM »
You know what's really strange? The amount of people that said they heard something, but didn't hear the screams for help. How could anyone miss those screams, but hear foot steps outside? That just seems strange to me.

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Re: Witness #1
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2012, 08:34:33 AM »
You know what's really strange? The amount of people that said they heard something, but didn't hear the screams for help. How could anyone miss those screams, but hear foot steps outside? That just seems strange to me.

We have found something on which to agree.

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Re: Witness #1
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2012, 08:58:44 AM »
I hear the screams on the first 911 call. They are loud and terrifying. Maybe witnesses were trying to forget. Maybe they just assumed the interrogator already knew about them. I've wondered if this was why George "HAD" to shoot Trayvon: to stop the loud, terrified, obnoxious screams.
Have you heard George's yelling for help recording he did for police? He didn't even know how to scream like on the 911 call. His were short huffs. The screams on the call were long.

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Re: Witness #1
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2012, 04:10:50 PM »
Correct Zimmerman needed to shoot Martin before Martin stopped Zimmerman's screams.

You can advance no reasonable theory supported by facts to suggest  why Martin would be screaming for 40 seconds.  Do you think GZ would falsely claim to be screaming even though he knew the fight was witnessed?




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Re: Witness #1
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2012, 11:19:15 PM »
He didn't even know how to scream like on the 911 call. His were short huffs. The screams on the call were long.

Congratulations, you just proved Zimmerman couldn't have been at the scene of the shooting.  If he had been, wouldn't he remember the sound of the poor little child begging for his life?


 

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