This forum needs a moderator to combat bias in any form. And jearalyn has put in the work and claims the right and that's fine by me.
But IMO no one can make GZ's statements jibe with either the idea that he reached a human (Sean the dispatcher) while at the clubhouse parking lot, or when he was already all the way down TTL parked by the cut thru. He's contradicted himself by making competing claims of where he was when TM passed him, hand in waistband, and therefor whatever version you choose to believe comes with a contradictory account given to SPD. Also IMO NEITHER position can be reliably aligned with the NE call recording.
leftwig tries to suggest that he moved during the call, and that's all fine and good but he doesn't say when, exactly. I'd like to know if he means before or after GZ says "Now he's staring at me," some 48 seconds into the call. Because it takes some time to get from the clubhouse parking lot to the cut thru parking position GZ claims - 30 seconds or so in the re-eneactment, and maybe GZ could do it faster but at any rate backing up from "now he's staring at me" point puts the move in the first sentences of the call, before Sean even gets to ask his very first question, "is he white, black or hispanic?"
And of course this idea of a move at that time means GZ is wrong/confused when he repeatedly tells investigators he is "by the clubhouse" when he's finally played the recording, and means GZ meant "no" when he said "yeah" when asked on the evening "is he near the clubhouse now?/yeah now he's coming towards me." George hasn't started giving driving directions yet, and isn't seemingly confused or distracted as far as I can tell. He's just started his call and is giving the basics as asked. And he certainly was never directed to move where he could see the teen in the first 20-30 seconds of the call.
I've been criticized and had posts deleted for length, but unless I provide supporting text people continue to rely on generalized memory and incomplete arguments to continue thinking in a biased manner, IMO.
We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle.
This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about. [00:25]
OK, is he White, Black, or Hispanic?
He looks black.
Did you see what he was wearing?
Yeah, a dark hoodie like a gray hoodie. He wore jeans or sweat pants and white tennis shoes. He’s here now … he’s just staring. [00:42]
He’s just walking around the area, the houses? OK.
Now he’s staring at me. [00:48]
OK, you said that’s 1111 Retreat View or 111?
That’s the clubhouse.
He’s near the clubhouse now?
Yeah, now he’s coming toward me. He’s got his hands in his waist band.
And he’s a black male.[1:03]
This thread is about what SPD's investigation established. I contend IMO they found the pattern of false statements GZ employed to obscure and omit the way he traveled from the clubhouse area to the cut thru area. If people don't agree that's fine, but don't pretend you have a more coherent theory posited here just yet, because as a practical matter I've not seen it.
George may not remember the name of Twin Trees Lane but he's not lost, and he marked a position on the map (and quickly crossed it out when he comes to the next section of the story) that IMO resolves contradictions and inconsistencies and establishes the pattern of his lies - when in doubt, leave it out. He seems quite afraid of admitting the concept of being in a moving car behind the teen where both are in motion. AFAIK there is nothing specifically wrong with his doing it, it's not a crime in and of itself but he's jeopardized his credibility for minimal gain, another pattern I see him doing.
If you were shown a map of your own neighborhood, could you tell the difference between the corner and the middle of a street? IMO George isn't confused or lost, he's simply pushing a false narrative. Perhaps it's his only lie, but there it is.