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Offline nomatter_nevermind

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Re: Media Respond to Motion for Gag Order
« Reply #45 on: October 27, 2012, 08:55:51 PM »
Without an actual quote from an SPD official stating 'it had completed its investigation'

O'Mara cited no source at all.

I'm not arguing that the Sentinel is correct. I don't know which one is right.


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Re: Media Respond to Motion for Gag Order
« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2012, 10:15:46 PM »
Considering that the only thing really added to the investigation that SPD did was Dee Dee, I would venture to say that they had gone as far as they could go.  Dee Dee wasn't an option for them.   IMO, that was because of Crump.

And Corey praised their work.  Said something to the effect that they (SAO) built their case on that work.

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Re: Media Respond to Motion for Gag Order
« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2012, 01:38:39 AM »
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They did what the police do. Any time you have a shooting scene and there is a person whose death is caused, the police launch a thorough and intensive investigation. That was done here.

But before the investigation could be finished, there was a lot of outcry about this case. And then, it changed course and we got appointed to take over the investigation.

Video of Special Prosecutor Angela Corey's press conference on April 11.

Redbrow quoted 21:33-55.

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We got full cooperation, and all of those significant documents and records, from Mr. Wolfinger's office.

It seems clear that Corey took over the investigation from Wolfinger, State Attorney for the Eighteenth Judicial Circuit, not the Sanford Police Department.

On March 15, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement received a request from Wolfinger for assistance in investigating the Zimmerman case (p. 67 of the July 12 evidence release).

The FDLE interviewed several witnesses on March 19.

Chris Serino, the SPD's lead investigator, signed two documents dated March 13. One was a capias request (pp. 26-27 of the May 17 evidence release). The other was a comprehensive report on the investigation of the Zimmerman case (pp. 35-47 of the May 17 release).

Following this report are two supplemental reports, dated March 18 (pp. 48-54), and March 19 (pp. 55-61).

The supplemental report dated March 18 describes an interview with W-19 that was done on March 10.

The supplemental report dated March 19 describes a meeting with Tracy Martin that happened on February 28.

I've looked over the audio interviews, and there don't seem to be any with the SPD after March 10.

Is there anything in the discovery to indicate any investigative activity by the SPD after March 10?

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Re: Media Respond to Motion for Gag Order
« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2012, 01:31:20 PM »
That Dee Dee was "found" shortly after Corey replaced Wolfinger, I find to be highly convenient. 

Corey officially replaced Wolfinger on March 22.

Crump presented Dee Dee to the world on March 20. He claimed Tracy spoke to her the previous Sunday, March 18.

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Re: Media Respond to Motion for Gag Order
« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2012, 02:25:36 PM »
Proving if reports are filed everyday is no way to determine whether an investigation is still open. Do you think the FBI is still filing daily reports in it's eight month investigation of Zimmerman that is still open?

It seems clear that Corey is referring to SPD in this statement.
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But before the investigation could be finished, there was a lot of outcry about this case. And then, it changed course and we got appointed to take over the investigation.

Crump himself claimed SPD was going to keep the investigation open for a year, if he had not 'sued' them and interfered with their 'conspiracy' to withhold the '911' tape 'so they can sweep it under the rug.'

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CRUMP: We had to sue to get the 911 tapes. They were not going to
release those tapes, and to the end, their investigation. We all know
these investigations can go for a year so they can sweep is under the rug.
Now, what`s telling, Chief Lee said when the tapes came out, it was going
help bolster Zimmerman`s self-defense account. Everybody in America has
heard these tapes. I don`t see why it bolsters --

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46823223/ns/msnbc-politicsnation/t/politicsnation-wednesday-march/#.UI2OIrTDJAI

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Re: Media Respond to Motion for Gag Order
« Reply #50 on: October 28, 2012, 02:36:42 PM »
Corey officially replaced Wolfinger on March 22.

Crump presented Dee Dee to the world on March 20. He claimed Tracy spoke to her the previous Sunday, March 18.

Crump never presented the DeeDee evidence to SPD or FDLE while Wolfinger was in charge. It was presented to Corey's office, and they are oblivious to the actual chain of custody for some strange reason.

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Re: Media Respond to Motion for Gag Order
« Reply #51 on: October 28, 2012, 06:26:53 PM »
Following this report are two supplemental reports, dated March 18 (pp. 48-54), and March 19 (pp. 55-61).

I missed a third supplemental report by Serino (pp. 63-69), dated March 22. It concerns two photos, one of Zimmerman and one of Martin, taken by Officer Michael Wagner on February 26.

Starting on p. 104 are a number of lab reports, addressed to Chief Lee and Investigator Serino. Some have dates between March 13 and March 22. Some have dates after March 22.

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Re: Media Respond to Motion for Gag Order
« Reply #52 on: October 28, 2012, 07:51:06 PM »
Crump never presented the DeeDee evidence to SPD or FDLE while Wolfinger was in charge. It was presented to Corey's office, and they are oblivious to the actual chain of custody for some strange reason.

Crump wouldn't know the chain of custody. He sent the tape to the Justice Dept/FBI which sent it to the FDLE which sent it to Corey's office. 

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Re: Gag Order Hearing Oct 26
« Reply #53 on: October 28, 2012, 08:19:30 PM »
On the timing of Dee Dee's debut, I do wonder if Crump had gotten some assurance that she wouldn't be called before a grand jury convened by Wolfinger.


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Re: Gag Order Hearing Oct 26
« Reply #54 on: October 28, 2012, 08:26:46 PM »

TalkLeft blog has a comment on O'Mara's sequester motion, with some interesting links.

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Re: Gag Order Hearing Oct 26
« Reply #55 on: October 29, 2012, 01:59:08 PM »
Valerie Boey ‏@vboey
Judge denies gag order in #GeorgeZimmerman case. #FOX35

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Re: Gag Order Hearing Oct 26
« Reply #56 on: October 29, 2012, 02:12:51 PM »
Zimmerman Judge Denies Gag Order

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The judge handling the George Zimmerman case will not impose a gag order on Zimmerman's attorney.

The ruling came down Monday.

In a hearing Friday, the prosecution asked that Zimmerman's lawyer Mark O'Mara not be allowed to talk to the media or post updates online.

O'Mara said the website, Facebook and Twitter accounts he's set up for Zimmerman's defense are important to controlling any misinformation about the case and that he hasn't discussed any specific evidence publicly.

Judge Nelson says there's no pattern of prejudicial commentary that might hurt efforts to get a fair jury in the case.

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Re: Gag Order Hearing Oct 26
« Reply #57 on: October 29, 2012, 02:26:46 PM »
"No pattern of prejudicial commentary" - I wonder if that finding was as to the totality of commentary (that is to say, NBC making edits, Crump and Jackson, etc.), or if she was referring to the sum total contents of O'Mara's speech on the subject.

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Re: Gag Order Hearing Oct 26
« Reply #58 on: October 29, 2012, 02:30:52 PM »
Nelson also formally ordered the Immunity hearing for on or before April 26th.

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Re: Gag Order Hearing Oct 26
« Reply #59 on: October 29, 2012, 02:58:17 PM »

 

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