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Re: June 7th Hearing
« Reply #75 on: June 07, 2013, 02:34:56 PM »
Did Reich just say there was no evidence GZ had been punched in the nose so he didn't take into account how that might effect someone's voice (after he said something like that would effect someone's voice)?

West has to take a moment to chat with MOM.

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Re: June 7th Hearing
« Reply #76 on: June 07, 2013, 02:39:33 PM »
It's official. Reich didn't identify any vocalizations as possibly those of W-6, or anyone but Martin, Zimmerman, W-11, W-20, and the dispatcher.

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Re: June 7th Hearing
« Reply #77 on: June 07, 2013, 02:40:12 PM »
The state is done, after Reich.  No plan to call H&H?  No need to qualify H&H?

Not sure if the defense will call French this afternoon, or will do so tomorrow morning.

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Re: June 7th Hearing
« Reply #78 on: June 07, 2013, 02:42:20 PM »
I missed something.

Reich said something was all over the internet, and West said he hadn't heard it before. Did anyone catch what it was?

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Re: June 7th Hearing
« Reply #79 on: June 07, 2013, 02:45:58 PM »
Reich said that some people heard the N word instead of the A word always get away.  I agree with West.  I never heard that before.

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Re: June 7th Hearing
« Reply #80 on: June 07, 2013, 02:46:48 PM »
No need to qualify H&H?

I wouldn't be surprised if the state doesn't plan to call them. Their findings were inconclusive, and if accepted they might help the defense more than the prosecution.

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Re: June 7th Hearing
« Reply #81 on: June 07, 2013, 02:48:35 PM »
The state is done, after Reich.  No plan to call H&H?  No need to qualify H&H?

Not sure if the defense will call French this afternoon, or will do so tomorrow morning.
So H&H are out? The state didn't like their conclusion. They were the best of the state's three in terms of scientific quality.

cbolt. Maybe I got it wrong. OMara had Nelson read the notes from French to determine if it was work product. I thought I heard Mantei say they didnt care about the notes because he won't testify.

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Re: June 7th Hearing
« Reply #82 on: June 07, 2013, 02:49:09 PM »
Frye hearing continued tomorrow. Taking up curfew.

Bernie brings up passport.

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Re: June 7th Hearing
« Reply #83 on: June 07, 2013, 02:50:07 PM »
GZ would like his curfew raised to 11 so he can meet with the lawyers etc.

Bernie objected.

Nelson raised it to ten.

Recess until tomorrow at 9 30.

Bernie is a little ...heh. Can I say that word here?

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Re: June 7th Hearing
« Reply #84 on: June 07, 2013, 02:50:20 PM »
So H&H are out? The state didn't like their conclusion. They were the best of the state's three in terms of scientific quality.

cbolt. Maybe I got it wrong. OMara had Nelson read the notes from French to determine if it was work product. I thought I heard Mantei say they didnt care about the notes because he won't testify.

State has three more witnesses.  Frye hearing continued until 9:30 tomorrow.

Nelson granted a modified curfew to Zimmerman, over the state's objection.  He is allowed to be with his attorney, curfew extended from 6 pm to 10:30 pm.

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Re: June 7th Hearing
« Reply #85 on: June 07, 2013, 02:50:53 PM »
Reich said that some people heard the N word instead of the A word always get away.  I agree with West.  I never heard that before.

Thanks. I also haven't heard that before.

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Re: June 7th Hearing
« Reply #86 on: June 07, 2013, 02:51:30 PM »
State has three more witnesses.  Frye hearing continued until 9:30 tomorrow.

Nelson granted a modified curfew to Zimmerman, over the state's objection.  He is allowed to be with his attorney, curfew extended from 6 pm to 10:30 pm.

I thought she said ten?
Not that it matters much.

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Re: June 7th Hearing
« Reply #87 on: June 07, 2013, 02:52:14 PM »
State has three more witnesses. 

I think you mean defense.

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Re: June 7th Hearing
« Reply #88 on: June 07, 2013, 02:54:28 PM »
So H&H are out? The state didn't like their conclusion. They were the best of the state's three in terms of scientific quality.

cbolt. Maybe I got it wrong. OMara had Nelson read the notes from French to determine if it was work product. I thought I heard Mantei say they didnt care about the notes because he won't testify.

I don't know for sure that H&H are out, but they did not testify for the state in this Frye hearing, so I assume they are not qualified as a formality (they may be qualified, just that the state didn't present them for the court's blessing), and it may be that the defense has no objection to H&H testimony, so wouldn't challenge them as witnesses in any event.

The purpose of Nelson reading the notes between counsel and experts was to determine whether or not West and O'Mara had to produce those written materials to the state.  Defense experts prepared no reports, so whatever defense counsel had/has is attorney work product, not expert witness product.  Mantei cared about those notes, but he can't see them.  He has to deal with the expert's testimony on the fly.

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Re: June 7th Hearing
« Reply #89 on: June 07, 2013, 02:56:41 PM »
I think you mean defense.

Yes indeedy!  Thank you.  State is done.  Defense has three more witnesses to call for purposes of Frye qualification.

And I'm in my monkey suit, ready for graduation ceremony.

 

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