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Re: Live Updates, Day Four, June 13, 2013
« Reply #75 on: June 13, 2013, 09:00:56 AM »
E-81 has heard GZ has gained weight. People gain or lose weight when they are very upset.

She has heard about GZ and family trying to raise defense money.

She had hearings on TV in background while she did other things, doesn't recall much.

Bernie wants to know why she knows so much more about TM than GZ.

She heard the judge said the jury wouldn't be sequestered and was relieved. She felt claustrophobic when she saw a questionnaire question about sequestration.

She is nervous about being a juror in the case. She thinks some people will be unhappy whichever way the verdict goes. She would walk out of court with a bulls eye on her back.

She doesn't want to serve on this jury.

If she does serve, she will look at all the evidence, and change her mind if the evidence is convincing.

She can put her opinion aside if the evidence is convincing.

She doesn't know what kind of evidence would convince her.

She tells Bernie he would have to work really hard to convince her.

Bernie asked if he would have to do magic, got into back and forth. O'Mara spoke up, I didn't catch a formal objection. Nelson called sidebar.


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Re: Live Updates, Day Four, June 13, 2013
« Reply #76 on: June 13, 2013, 09:08:31 AM »
Bernie back questioning E-81.

She understands GZ had concealed carry permit.

Bernie asks if she went in with strong feelings about protecting neighborhoods.

She talks about off-duty cops carrying weapons, says she feels safe know that some people carry weapons.

Her husband is a retired cop.

Bernie asked if her husband shared her opinion. At first she refuses to answer.

She keeps responding to his questions by asking why that matters. This time it was about the opinions of her family members.

She is evasive, argumentative.

She and Bernie having a confusing back and forth. She says her mind is made up about people having a right to carry guns. Bernie asked something about that contributing to her having her mind made up abou the case. I missed her answer. Her answers often aren't responsive.

She hasn't discussed the case with friends.


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Re: Live Updates, Day Four, June 13, 2013
« Reply #77 on: June 13, 2013, 09:11:34 AM »
E-81 hasn't signed any petitions. Bernie asked why not. She doesn't know. None was presented to her. She considered donating to defense fund, but never did.

She hasn't seen websites on either side.

She never felt the Orlando Sentinel or her local TV news were biased on this case. She thinks the TV news is biased about the government.

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Re: Live Updates, Day Four, June 13, 2013
« Reply #78 on: June 13, 2013, 09:13:35 AM »
Bernie tried to get E-81 to say he would have to do better than beyond reasonable doubt to convince her. She didn't take the bait. O'Mara stepped in.

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Re: Live Updates, Day Four, June 13, 2013
« Reply #79 on: June 13, 2013, 09:16:22 AM »
O'Mara objects that Bernie is mischaracterizing  the law and asking witness to assent to it. Nelson sustains.

O'Mara up.

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Re: Live Updates, Day Four, June 13, 2013
« Reply #80 on: June 13, 2013, 09:17:50 AM »
E-81 first reaction was that it was so sad someone died.

Her information limited to one local TV channel and Orlando Sentinel.

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Re: Live Updates, Day Four, June 13, 2013
« Reply #81 on: June 13, 2013, 09:19:29 AM »
E-81 didn't pay more attention to the story than to other tragic news stories.

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Re: Live Updates, Day Four, June 13, 2013
« Reply #82 on: June 13, 2013, 09:20:14 AM »
E-81 is on a soapbox about self defense.

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Re: Live Updates, Day Four, June 13, 2013
« Reply #83 on: June 13, 2013, 09:22:23 AM »
O'Mara asks if she can follow judge's instructions if they conflict with her beliefs.

She says she will to the best of her ability.

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Re: Live Updates, Day Four, June 13, 2013
« Reply #84 on: June 13, 2013, 09:24:07 AM »
O'Mara was asking something about burden of proof. Bernie objected he was misstating the law. Sustained.

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Re: Live Updates, Day Four, June 13, 2013
« Reply #85 on: June 13, 2013, 09:26:33 AM »
O'Mara using red/blue car analogy to ask about her willingness to prefer court evidence over what she had heard previously.

O'Mara is asking what if pictures she has seen don't come into evidence.

E-81 says she can follow instructions to ignore them.

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Re: Live Updates, Day Four, June 13, 2013
« Reply #86 on: June 13, 2013, 09:27:16 AM »
E-81 says she understand that what isn't presented in court isn't evidence.

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Re: Live Updates, Day Four, June 13, 2013
« Reply #87 on: June 13, 2013, 09:27:59 AM »
O'Mara is giving her opportunities to assert her impartiality.

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Re: Live Updates, Day Four, June 13, 2013
« Reply #88 on: June 13, 2013, 09:29:27 AM »
O'Mara asks what if another juror brings up something not in evidence. Would she tell the other juror she shouldn't consider it?

Yes.

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Re: Live Updates, Day Four, June 13, 2013
« Reply #89 on: June 13, 2013, 09:30:34 AM »
E-81 says the case has not been a focus for her. After she got summons, she watched TV news more than usual.


 

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