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Offline RickyJim

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Re: Robert Zimmerman, Sr. Launches e-Book on Amazon
« Reply #45 on: June 23, 2013, 01:21:33 PM »
So who is going to call RZ,Sr. to testify?  The defense doesn't need to do it to discredit Sybrina Fulton's scream identification.  If I was a juror, the side that doesn't call a scream identifier has more credibility.

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« Reply #46 on: June 23, 2013, 01:22:18 PM »
So who is going to call RZ,Sr. to testify?  The defense doesn't need to do it to discredit Sybrina Fulton's scream identification.  If I was a juror, the side that doesn't call a scream identifier has more credibility.

Thanks for finally asking this question.

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« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2013, 01:35:52 PM »
If I was a juror, the side that doesn't call a scream identifier has more credibility.

The advisability of calling scream ID witnesses for the defense will depend on how the prosecution's scream ID testimony goes. In most cases, I think the defense needs to call such witnesses, or else the attribution of the screams to TM goes uncontradicted. Weak evidence that it's TM might very well trump no evidence that it's GZ.

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Re: Robert Zimmerman, Sr. Launches e-Book on Amazon
« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2013, 01:45:45 PM »
If I was a juror, the side that doesn't call a scream identifier has more credibility.

If you were a juror, there would be five other jurors.

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« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2013, 02:05:28 PM »
Since the prosecution goes first, the defense will have plenty of time to judge how well the prosecution witnesses handle:
  • Tell us all about the times you heard Trayvon scream for his life like that.
  • Tell us all about the times you heard anyone else scream for his life like that.
  • Which of these times were through walls and a cellphone?
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« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2013, 02:34:35 PM »
Since the prosecution goes first, the defense will have plenty of time to judge how well the prosecution witnesses handle ...

If the defense merely casts doubt on the credibility of the state's voice ID witnesses, the jury may conclude the defense has no counter testimony to offer, and that's the best they can do. Offering witnesses who say it's GZ screaming would be mostly to cancel out the state witnesses.

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Re: Robert Zimmerman, Sr. Launches e-Book on Amazon
« Reply #51 on: June 23, 2013, 03:46:15 PM »
Mark Martinson pointed out on TalkLeft
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Dr. French testified that the human voice changes so much (and such an unpredictable way) when one is screaming in a life or death situation that you can't even determine (in this case at least) whether the person screaming was a male or female or even whether or not he was a native English speaker.

Dr. French is more of a human speech scientist than the other defense witnesses.  He would be an excellent rebuttal witness to claims from relatives that they could identify Trayvon screaming from that 911 call.  There just might be a juror who would be ticked off at the defense by following the prosecution tendency to insult their intelligence by putting on Zimmerman's friends and relatives to identify him as the screamer.

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« Reply #52 on: June 23, 2013, 07:11:04 PM »
There just might be a juror who would be ticked off at the defense by following the prosecution tendency to insult their intelligence by putting on Zimmerman's friends and relatives to identify him as the screamer.

An intelligent juror will understand their reasons for doing so.

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Re: Robert Zimmerman, Sr. Launches e-Book on Amazon
« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2013, 08:18:53 PM »
I didn't say he was.

And I didn't say that you said he was. I was trying to explain what he said.

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Re: Robert Zimmerman, Sr. Launches e-Book on Amazon
« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2013, 03:29:22 AM »
Ladies of the jury, and gentlemen alternates, at this time the state would like to introduce into evidence a book which will prove that the defendent's father is prejudiced in his favor.

 

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