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The First 28 Approved in Round 1
« on: June 14, 2013, 11:52:08 PM »
Since the media has listed the numbers and descriptions of the first 28 jurors approved in the first round, I think they are ripe for discussion.

Here's the description from the Orlando Sentinel, which lists 29 and says one unidentified juror was also sent home, leaving 28. Feel free to add to the Sentinel's description in comments or disagree. And check out Diwataman's post on who's moving on.

ABC News reports that of the 29 candidates (again, the number is now 28), 19 are white; six are black; two are Hispanic; one describes himself as mixed race; and one is Asian-American. ...The potential jurors asked to return were overwhelmingly female and middle-aged. Here is the Sentinel list:

B-35: A middle-aged black man who owns a vending business. He was critical of the Rev. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, and says this case is not racial.

B-29: A Hispanic nurse on an Alzheimer's ward who has seven children and lived in Chicago at time of shooting.

B-12: A middle-aged white woman who works the graveyard shift. She likes the crime-forensics show CSI and said she'd heard Zimmerman was following Trayvon.

B-76: A white middle-aged woman who said Zimmerman had an "altercation with the young man. There was a struggle and the gun went off."

B-51: A retired white woman from Oviedo who has a dog and 20-year-old cat. She knew a good deal about the case, but said "I'm not rigid in my thinking."

B-7: A middle-aged white man who listens to NPR. He remembered when Florida implemented its "stand your ground" law and the debate about whether it was needed.

B-37: A middle-aged white woman who works for a chiropractor and has many pets. She described protests in Sanford as "rioting."

B-86: A middle-aged white woman who works at a middle school. She said if Trayvon had not been "expelled" from school in Dade County he was actually suspended "this could have been prevented."

B-55: A small, dark-skinned woman who's a business major at college. She had almost no information about the case. "It doesn't concern me."

E-6: A young white woman and mother who used to work in financial services. She used this case as an example to her adolescent children, warning them to not go out at night.

E-40: A white woman in her 60s who lived in Iowa at the time of the shooting. She heard national news reports and recalls the shooting was in a gated community and a teenager was killed.

E-54: A middle-aged white man with a teenage stepson who wears hoodies. He recalled seeing photos of Zimmerman's head and face that show injuries.

E-73: A middle-aged white woman active in Sanford's arts community, who is raising her late brother's 15- and 18-year-old children. The media interjected race in this case, she said.

M-75: A young African-American woman who says many of her friends have opinions on the case, but she doesn't.

B-61: A young white woman who remembered that "after the protesters, it seemed to turn more into a racial issue...I don't think it's a racial issue."

B-72: A young man who does maintenance at a school and competes in arm wrestling tournaments. He said he avoids the news because he does not want to be "brainwashed."

E-22: A middle-aged African-American woman who said that after the shooting Sanford police should have booked Zimmerman and asked him more questions.

E-13: A young white woman who goes to college and works two jobs. She heard the shooting was a "racial thing."

E-28: A middle-aged white woman who works as a nurse. She knew little about the case and has no opinion about Zimmerman's guilt.

K-80: A middle-aged white woman with children who has not followed the case. She considers the "racial undertones" in the case "disturbing."

K-95: A middle-aged woman who's a full-time student and "IT geek" with two children. She was critical of protests calling for Zimmerman's arrest.

P-67: A native of Mexico who seemed eager to serve on the jury, describing it as a civic duty. "Some people think it is a racist thing," he said of the shooting.

G-14: A middle-aged white woman. "I remember a lot of anger, a lot of people upset that Mr. Zimmerman was not arrested immediately."

G-29: A young black woman who has lived in Seminole County eight months. "There is a lot of racial tension built up," she said, but she "stayed away from it."

G-47: A young white man who works as assistant manager at restaurant. Zimmerman appears to be "stuck in the worst situation" possible, he said.

G-63: A young, unemployed man who described himself as "mixed race." He knew few details about the case but denounced stereotyping and said people sometimes interject race into cases.

G-66: A retired white woman who cares for her toddler grandson and moved to Central Florida in 2011. When she saw photos of Zimmerman's injuries, "I felt sorry for him."

G-81: A tall black man who lives less than a half mile from the scene of the shooting. There is a racial divide in Sanford, he said, but the media has misportrayed the city.

H-6: A young white man who heard the phone call Zimmerman made to police before the shooting. "He sounded like he was concerned for his neighborhood."

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Re: The First 28 Approved in Round 1
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2013, 07:14:03 AM »
Here's the description from the Orlando Sentinel . . .

B-86: A middle-aged white woman who works at a middle school. She said if Trayvon had not been "expelled" from school in Dade County he was actually suspended "this could have been prevented."

I was updating during B-86's voir dire. I think the OS reporter misunderstood her point.

To be fair, she wasn't expressing herself very clearly, and I don't think I did very well explaining in real time either.

This is what I wrote, across two posts:

B-86 heard TM was in Sanford because he was expelled from school.

She is a single parent, very strict. She had the thought that it wouldn't have happened if TM hadn't been in Sanford.

Bernie asks if B-86 would be biased against Sybrina as a witness. She doesn't think so. Wouldn't the judgment pop into her mind? It would. She likes to think she could separate it.

She didn't say it wouldn't have happened if he hadn't been expelled. She said it wouldn't have happened if he hadn't been in Sanford. I wasn't quoting verbatim, but I did use the same words as the speakers when I could do so with brevity. That also matches my recollection. It was not the supposed expulsion that she directly referenced. It was Trayvon being in Sanford. 

What I failed to make clear, because it's not easy to express in a few words, is how B-86 was relating the idea of TM not being in Sanford to the idea of strict parenting. When she described herself as a strict parent, she was trying to explain, not very articulately, that she had negative feelings about Sybrina sending Trayvon to Sanford after he was 'expelled', instead of keeping him close to home and under her supervision.

And de la Rionda obviously took it that way. His examination of B-86 is one of the more memorable episodes in the whole voir dire. In the updates I wrote two more posts on it, plus the first sentence of the next.

My hasty real time paraphrase may be ambiguous. What I called  'the judgment' was exactly B-86's statement that the shooting wouldn't have happened if Trayvon hadn't been in Sanford. It wasn't ambiguous in de la Rionda's questioning. He thought B-86 might hold that against Sybrina, and she conceded that she might.

She could have spared herself an ordeal by saying that she didn't mean the mother, she meant that she blamed the school for 'expelling' him. She didn't say that, and I don't think it's true.


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