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Offline RickyJim

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Re: Day 1: Opening Statements, June 24, 2013
« Reply #210 on: June 24, 2013, 11:58:53 AM »
West showing a really good picture of the scene - one not seen before.  I hope it appears in the media soon.  What company prepared it?  Shows location of evidence items.
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Re: Day 1: Opening Statements, June 24, 2013
« Reply #211 on: June 24, 2013, 12:00:02 PM »
Since some think West got a bit long winded and too detailed in his opening statement thus far, a question came to mind.  Will the judge consider any evidence he presented in his opening (bloody photos, routes and timings, etc) if/when she is asked to make a judgment for acquittal after the prosecutions case?

No.  This is limited to introductory material for the jury.  Witnesses need to testify and present evidence before the court can consider a question of sufficiency of evidence as to guilt.  What West is doing is ZERO evidence.  He is "promising" that these pieces of evidence will be produced.

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Re: Day 1: Opening Statements, June 24, 2013
« Reply #212 on: June 24, 2013, 12:02:32 PM »
West showing a really good picture of the scene - one not seen before.  I hope it appears in the media soon.  What company prepared it.  Shows location of evidence items.

Total station. It's a surveying tool used by police/fire (and others). Allows for precise plotting without a second person being needed, then the ability to create the computer rendition. He said who created it for them using the data, but I didn't catch it.

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Re: Day 1: Opening Statements, June 24, 2013
« Reply #213 on: June 24, 2013, 12:03:31 PM »
Saying how the voice ID isn't possible.
"Waste of time or unreliable"....


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Re: Day 1: Opening Statements, June 24, 2013
« Reply #214 on: June 24, 2013, 12:08:09 PM »
My biggest worry;  West is promising people will come in and say it is George screaming.  He has more to gain by refuting the prosecution witnesses who say it is Trayvon.  But those same witnesses will refute those who say it is George.

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Re: Day 1: Opening Statements, June 24, 2013
« Reply #215 on: June 24, 2013, 12:08:23 PM »
Inoculating the jury against family saying "oh I recognize that voice" by saying TM's mother will say it was his voice...she certainly wants it to be his voice...and now he's telling the story of how the elder TM wasn't able to recognize the screams.
 

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Re: Day 1: Opening Statements, June 24, 2013
« Reply #216 on: June 24, 2013, 12:09:34 PM »
My biggest worry;  West is promising people will come in and say it is George screaming.  He has more to gain by refuting the prosecution witnesses who say it is Trayvon.  But those same witnesses will refute those who say it is George.

He said that to say what he's saying now--that Tracy couldn't ID the voice. In fact he said "no, that's not my son."

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Re: Day 1: Opening Statements, June 24, 2013
« Reply #217 on: June 24, 2013, 12:11:49 PM »
Is West really about to go down the road of the public pressure and protests and stuff?

He's talking about how they hired a media consultant and a law firm. Lawsuit for the release of the recording filed by Crump..."great, great public pressure on the city to release the recordings"

Objection by the state. Sustained.

I think objecting makes them look scared.

West appears to be merely rephrasing how he was going.

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Re: Day 1: Opening Statements, June 24, 2013
« Reply #218 on: June 24, 2013, 12:13:48 PM »
Telling them how Mr. Martin then changed his story and said the voice was his son. Another objection, Nelson says "closing arguments, sustained."

West doesn't seem put off his line of thought at all by it.

ETA: prosecution is glaring at West. It's kinda funny. They should watch the body language. IMO.
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Re: Day 1: Opening Statements, June 24, 2013
« Reply #219 on: June 24, 2013, 12:15:29 PM »
Now West can't call Dr. French to say it is impossible to determine the language, sex or age of the person screaming on that poor quality recording.

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Re: Day 1: Opening Statements, June 24, 2013
« Reply #220 on: June 24, 2013, 12:16:22 PM »
Now West can't call Dr. French to say it is impossible to determine the language, sex or age of the person screaming on that poor quality recording.

Why not? It's what he just said isn't it?

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Re: Day 1: Opening Statements, June 24, 2013
« Reply #221 on: June 24, 2013, 12:17:26 PM »
Another objection, West tried to explain and they objected to his explanation. Sustained with a mini lecture from Nellie about what opening statements are supposed to be.

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Re: Day 1: Opening Statements, June 24, 2013
« Reply #222 on: June 24, 2013, 12:21:33 PM »
Why not? It's what he just said isn't it?
Because that contradicts his own witness' claims that they can identify GZ's voice.

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Re: Day 1: Opening Statements, June 24, 2013
« Reply #223 on: June 24, 2013, 12:21:53 PM »
West is telling them about the gym, how GZ joined to lose weight. He took a grappling class and a boxing class. He never made it past standing up and hitting the bag in the boxing class. Not an athlete, soft.

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Re: Day 1: Opening Statements, June 24, 2013
« Reply #224 on: June 24, 2013, 12:22:46 PM »
Because that contradicts his own witness' claims that they can identify GZ's voice.

But that's West's whole point, isn't it?

 

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