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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2013, 01:51:11 PM »
I assume the end call time was that garnered from TM's phone call.  I presume we have no idea whether he hung it up or it hung up on its own (W8 describes it going dead at some point, not that TM ended the call).  Looking for clarification is twofold.  The more W8 testifies to hearing, the less gap there is between the time GZ ended his NEN call and the two encounter each other. If she heard nothing, then there is a 2 minute gap, but if she heard as much as indicated in the BDLR/Crump interviews, it might only be a 90 second gap.  IT may also call into question either the narrative of W8 or that of Jenna/Jeremy.  W8 says she heard verbal exchange and some scuffling, but no cries for help from anyone, so lets presume she heard 20-30 seconds of the encounter.  This would mean it was at least 45 seconds from the time Jenna heard the start of the verbal exchange until she called 911, which is longer than they describe. 

We aren't talking about huge gaps of time, so certainly within the margin for error of guestimates after the fact.  I think its certainly possible W8 hear argument and Jenna/Jeremy heard what they did and have them fit within the timeline. 

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2013, 02:09:36 AM »
I assume the end call time was that garnered from TM's phone call.  I presume we have no idea whether he hung it up or it hung up on its own (W8 describes it going dead at some point, not that TM ended the call).  Looking for clarification is twofold.  The more W8 testifies to hearing, the less gap there is between the time GZ ended his NEN call and the two encounter each other. If she heard nothing, then there is a 2 minute gap, but if she heard as much as indicated in the BDLR/Crump interviews, it might only be a 90 second gap.  IT may also call into question either the narrative of W8 or that of Jenna/Jeremy.  W8 says she heard verbal exchange and some scuffling, but no cries for help from anyone, so lets presume she heard 20-30 seconds of the encounter.  This would mean it was at least 45 seconds from the time Jenna heard the start of the verbal exchange until she called 911, which is longer than they describe. 

We aren't talking about huge gaps of time, so certainly within the margin for error of guestimates after the fact.  I think its certainly possible W8 hear argument and Jenna/Jeremy heard what they did and have them fit within the timeline.


They said Trayvon's last call ended at 7:15:44 pm, which was only 27 seconds before W11's 911 call was answered at 7:16:11 pm

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2013, 12:30:31 PM »
Woot, woot!

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2013, 12:31:13 PM »
Family is from Dominican Republic. Met Martin in elementary school.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2013, 12:31:20 PM »
She's like a child who can't sit still.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2013, 12:32:42 PM »
TM's parents look like they don't approve of her.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2013, 12:33:25 PM »
Heh. She's rolling her eyes at Bernie. Can't hold that against her.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2013, 12:33:55 PM »
Now Chad is a 'future step-brother'.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2013, 12:35:37 PM »
She didn't think it was a big idea? (1st sighting of GZ)

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2013, 12:36:18 PM »
TM kept complaining that a man kept watching him.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2013, 12:36:45 PM »
If I were BDLR, I would have presented her much earlier on, before the suspicions of witness coaching had a chance to set it.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2013, 12:37:19 PM »
She asked what GZ looked like and TM said he looked creepy.

This is new.

ETA: TM said  He was 'a creepy-ass cracker.' RJ said GZ might be a rapist. TM said for her to stop playing with him like that.

Familiar story now. Rain slacked and TM started walking.

West objected that Bernie mis-stated her testimony.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2013, 12:40:27 PM by nomatter_nevermind »

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2013, 12:37:37 PM »
Somebody explain what "narrative objection" is.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2013, 12:38:00 PM »
She asked what GZ looked like and TM said he looked creepy.

This is new.

creepy ass cracka no less.

a rapist? TM was afraid GZ might rape him?

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2013, 12:38:10 PM »
"Creepy ass cracka."

 

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