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Offline nomatter_nevermind

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #60 on: June 26, 2013, 01:11:24 PM »
I always assumed that the first time she said 'from the back' in a courtroom, someone would ask what it meant. If I were the judge, I would ask. What's the point of a witness saying things the jury doesn't understand?

Am I the only one who thinks it might make a difference, to understand how walking or running 'from the back' is different from everyday walking or running? RJ seems to think it makes a difference.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #61 on: June 26, 2013, 01:15:53 PM »
I always assumed that the first time she said 'from the back' in a courtroom, someone would ask what it meant. If I were the judge, I would ask. What's the point of a witness saying things the jury doesn't understand?

Am I the only one who thinks it might make a difference, to understand how walking or running 'from the back' is different from everyday walking or running? RJ seems to think it makes a difference.

It absolutely makes a difference, but clearly she didn't see it, so the "from the back" are TM's words to her and she likely has no clue what it means.  It is worth asking her though and I imagine the defense will.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #62 on: June 26, 2013, 01:16:25 PM »
I agree with you NM, but it seems as though Nelson just wants RJ off the stand and out of her court room as fast as possible.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #63 on: June 26, 2013, 01:17:04 PM »
It absolutely makes a difference, but clearly she didn't see it, so the "from the back" are TM's words to her and she likely has no clue what it means.  It is worth asking her though and I imagine the defense will.

I'm pretty sure it's her description and not TM's.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #64 on: June 26, 2013, 01:19:34 PM »
It absolutely makes a difference, but clearly she didn't see it, so the "from the back" are TM's words to her and she likely has no clue what it means.

If it meant nothing to her, I think she would drop it. 

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It is worth asking her though and I imagine the defense will.

I'm starting to wonder. Maybe neither side wants to ask a question they don't know the answer to. Come to think of it, the defense would have asked in deposition if they were going to ask at all.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #65 on: June 26, 2013, 01:21:25 PM »
RJ is less convincing in court than in any of her interviews. She seems like she's in a hurry to say her lines and get out of there. She doesn't seem to care much about getting justice for her friend.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #66 on: June 26, 2013, 01:23:01 PM »
West up for cross.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #67 on: June 26, 2013, 01:24:00 PM »
I'm pretty sure it's her description and not TM's.

As I recall her BDLR intereview, W8 says TM told her "he about to run from the back" after she suggested he run to his fathers house.  I don't see any possible way she could in her own words describe how TM was running or path he took without it being his words describing it to her.  Certainly he could have told it differently to her and these are her interpretations of what he said, but its the only way she ever described it, so my guess is thats all she remembers.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #68 on: June 26, 2013, 01:24:07 PM »
feb. 1st 2012 was the first contact they had since grade school.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #69 on: June 26, 2013, 01:24:55 PM »
feb. 1st 2012 was the first contact they had since grade school.

edit sorry, that was the first time they began talking on the phone/texting since grade school.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #70 on: June 26, 2013, 01:25:25 PM »
She says she wasn't his girlfriend 'in any way'. (That was West's question.)

ETA: Except, of course, that they was getting there.
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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #71 on: June 26, 2013, 01:26:23 PM »
West changes 'at some length' to 'a lot'.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #72 on: June 26, 2013, 01:29:45 PM »
She has finally calmed enough to sit still. She seems more comfortable being cross-examined than she did telling her story.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #73 on: June 26, 2013, 01:30:10 PM »
Looks like they weren't talking for the whole day.  The first call started at 5:09 pm.

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Re: Rachel Jeantel (Witness 8) Trayvon's Phone Friend
« Reply #74 on: June 26, 2013, 01:33:59 PM »
West: Are you with me?

RJ: No, you lost me.

 

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