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John Good (Witness 6)
« on: June 25, 2013, 03:12:39 AM »
The defense disclosed today that Witness 6 who observed the struggle between GZ and TM, who heard one of them cry out for help,  and  who says TM was on top (black shirt) and GZ on the bottom (red shirt), and in whose backyard TM's body was laying, is John Good. He (and Witness 17) lived or live at 1221 Twin Trees Lane, next door to Jenna Lauer and Jeremy Weinberg (Witnesses 11 and 20.)

The defense said in opening the gun shot forensics will corroborate his statement that Trayvon was on top when he was shot.

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Re: John Good (Witness 6)
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2013, 05:17:22 PM »
Do we know when he will be called and is he going to be called by the state or by the defense?  I would assume the defense, but what the heck do I know?

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Re: John Good (Witness 6)
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2013, 06:27:30 PM »
I suspect many of these witnesses will be called by both the state and the defense. That's because the defense attorneys will be limited in cross-examination to the scope of the direct. (And in theory credibility issues, but I assume they won't want to undermine witnesses who support their case enough that they want to call them.)

The state called Jenna Lauer (W-11) today, and Guy mentioned John Good in his opening statement. I'm thinking Good will likely be called by both state and defense.

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Re: John Good (Witness 6)
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2013, 07:31:33 AM »
9:30 AM

JG on stand, being questioned by Bernie.

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Re: John Good (Witness 6)
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2013, 07:34:08 AM »
JG didn't think anything of the first noise.

ETA: 'A couple of minutes' between first noise and noises that got his attention.

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Re: John Good (Witness 6)
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2013, 07:39:21 AM »
JG says he took one step outside his sliding door.

So far he is sticking close to his pre-trial interviews.

He recalls the first thing he said as 'Stop it.' In at least one pre-trial interview he said 'cut it out'.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2013, 07:43:20 AM by nomatter_nevermind »

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Re: John Good (Witness 6)
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2013, 07:41:41 AM »
At first TM and GZ were 'vertical', meaning perpendicular to the sidewalk.

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Re: John Good (Witness 6)
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2013, 07:44:23 AM »
JG volunteered that he changed his mind on being sure there was hitting.

There was 'arm motion going downwards, multiple times'.

JG recalls saying:

'What's going on?'

'Cut it out.'

'I'm calling 911.'

He paused between utterances.

JG mentioned absence of echo.

Not 100% sure GZ was the one calling.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2013, 07:49:15 AM by nomatter_nevermind »

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Re: John Good (Witness 6)
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2013, 07:48:44 AM »
TV was muted before JG went out.

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Re: John Good (Witness 6)
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2013, 07:48:52 AM »
He brought up echo as the reason he thought the person on bottom was yelling.  Will that be explored more?

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Re: John Good (Witness 6)
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2013, 07:50:17 AM »
Noise was getting closer (Bernardo didn't ask from which direction, I don't think - O'Mara probably will, regardless)
W-6 says an outside light was on.  Screen obstructed his view somewhat.  Vertical blinds, he peeked through.  Couldn't see anything beyond "something," and disregarding instructions from his wife, he opened the blinds and sliding door, and stepped outside.  One step outside to the concrete slab, one foot inside, one foot outside.  Looked like a tussle, thought maybe it was a dog attack.  People were vertical to him (I think he uses "vertical" the same way another witness did, people on the ground can be vertical, depending on the head-foot direction).

Was one foot outdoors for a few seconds.  Bernardo tries to get W6 to define vertical.

Tussle didn't move far, but it moved up onto the concrete walkway.  He could see two people by now.  Person on top was dark clothing, person on bottom is white or red, some lighter color.  No photos.  Only saw for maximum of ten seconds, could be as little as two or three seconds.  He could tell at one point the person on the bottom had lighter skin.  This person was always on the bottom.  Person on top was straddling, legs over the lower part of the body of the person on the bottom.  Person on the bottom was face up.

He's carefully answering.  Bernardo shifts the timing of W6's view, and W6 picks up on all of these.

Arm movement of person on top was from shoulders down.  Bernardo asks if W6 heard striking sounds (slaps hands together), No.  Bernardo asks is person on top was just holding the person on the bottom.  O'Mara objects, overruled.  W6 says it is possible the person was just holding, but arms were moving.

Bernardo does through what was said, and W6 reiterates that this corresponds to the time he described earlier (which was 10 seconds).  Cannot unequivocally say who was saying something.  W6 says if it had been the person on top, the sound would have echoed, and this did not.  Asked to describe the calls for help, just one or two, then they moved onto the sidewalk, he thought it was getting serious, he told them he was calling 911, he went in the house, didn't worry about the sliding door, called 911.  Doesn't remember what else he may have heard, his adrenaline was running.

Did not turn off the outside light when he stepped in.  Saw nobody else at first.  Was focused on combatants, did not notice other neighbors outdoors or peeking through windows/doors.  Can not say one way or the other if the guy on the bottom had a gun out already.  Bernardo plays the 911 recording ...

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Re: John Good (Witness 6)
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2013, 07:50:53 AM »
Bernie preparing to play 911 recording.

It's playing.

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Re: John Good (Witness 6)
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2013, 07:55:26 AM »
Bernie asked if JG had seen body slamming or head bashing on MMA TV shows. He said 'no'.

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Re: John Good (Witness 6)
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2013, 07:56:44 AM »
Bernie is showing photos, as he did for other resident witnesses. He is starting overhead of RATL.

ETA: Moving on to ground level photos.

JG: 'Raining off and on all night' on 2/26/12.

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Re: John Good (Witness 6)
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2013, 07:57:28 AM »
911 call, operator having trouble inputting to her computer.  Can't hear any screams on the call.  John reports somebody is dead.  Reporting guys with flashlights, and one guy laying on the ground.  Call ends.

Recalls saying MMA style.  Is referring to the straddle position, and the actions of the arms.  Looks like something he had seen on teevee before, and that (MMA style) is the first thing that came to his mind as descriptor.

Never saw the person on top slam the person on the bottom's head onto concrete.  Bernardo asks this three time, with slightly different variations.

911 scream call was played for Good at a deposition.  This was the first time he had heard the recording. The screams on the call did not sound the same to him as what he heard with his own ears.

Comes off as a very credible witness.  Answers directly.  Descriptive enough, giving good reasons for past remarks.

 

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