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Offline cboldt

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Re: Week 2, 3rd Day, 7/3/13
« Reply #75 on: July 03, 2013, 12:00:49 PM »
By all accounts the prosecution has taken far less time than planned for. So why not use the unexpected extra time to ensure due process?

This is unbelievable bias and hostility.

I think it's run pretty much on the estimated schedule - 8+ days for the prosecution.  Total time of 10-20 days.  She's hustling things up because the jury doesn't want to be "stuck" any longer than necessary.

She's been consistently short with the defense.  I think that is a good sign for Zimmerman.

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Re: Week 2, 3rd Day, 7/3/13
« Reply #76 on: July 03, 2013, 12:07:43 PM »
Anthony Gorgone, FDLE DNA Analyst.

Bernie on direct.

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Re: Week 2, 3rd Day, 7/3/13
« Reply #77 on: July 03, 2013, 12:13:50 PM »


She's been consistently short with the defense.  I think that is a good sign for Zimmerman.

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Re: Week 2, 3rd Day, 7/3/13
« Reply #78 on: July 03, 2013, 12:16:48 PM »
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If Zimmerman is convicted, he appeals, and uses all of her bad decisions.

But, if Zimmerman is acquitted, all the errors she made that cut against the defense just "vanish."  It's rational for a judge to bias trial errors more against the side the judge thinks will ultimately prevail.

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Re: Week 2, 3rd Day, 7/3/13
« Reply #79 on: July 03, 2013, 12:22:05 PM »
If Zimmerman is convicted, he appeals, and uses all of her bad decisions.

But, if Zimmerman is acquitted, all the errors she made that cut against the defense just "vanish."  It's rational for a judge to bias trial errors more against the side the judge thinks will ultimately prevail.

I figured that's what you were saying, you've said it before.

I suppose you're right, I just don't like it--the idea of GZ (or anyone) having to appeal to a higher court to try and get justice.


ETA: it looks like the lawyers on twitter are losing their minds, at least the ones I've seen, Diana Tennis, Jeff Dean and so forth. They can't believe how biased the judge is appearing toward the state.

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Re: Week 2, 3rd Day, 7/3/13
« Reply #80 on: July 03, 2013, 02:09:47 PM »
About 3:40 PM, there was 15 minute recess that lasted a little more than 20 minutes.

West crossing Anthony Gorgone.

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Re: Week 2, 3rd Day, 7/3/13
« Reply #81 on: July 03, 2013, 02:10:24 PM »
I can't believe that they aren't going to have someone from Kokopelli's gym testify.  Incredible. 

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Re: Week 2, 3rd Day, 7/3/13
« Reply #82 on: July 03, 2013, 02:13:23 PM »
I can't believe that they aren't going to have someone from Kokopelli's gym testify.  Incredible.

It would lead back to testimony that GZ took the classes but was a giant puss and never got past the heavy bag, that they weren't comfortable with him even getting in the ring.

That's not helpful for the Giant Evil George image.

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Re: Week 2, 3rd Day, 7/3/13
« Reply #83 on: July 03, 2013, 02:20:47 PM »
In a homicide case in which the body is examined by an ME, does the ME ever not testify? I think the count of the talking heads was off. There will be Dr. Bao, and Sybrina, at least. Nelson said said she will go late, so they can be accommodated. 

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Re: Week 2, 3rd Day, 7/3/13
« Reply #84 on: July 03, 2013, 02:22:25 PM »
It would lead back to testimony that GZ took the classes but was a giant puss and never got past the heavy bag, that they weren't comfortable with him even getting in the ring.

That's not helpful for the Giant Evil George image.

But the defense can call them and get this same testimony.  I think it's a big mistake for the State to not call them. 

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Re: Week 2, 3rd Day, 7/3/13
« Reply #85 on: July 03, 2013, 02:23:10 PM »
It would lead back to testimony that GZ took the classes but was a giant puss and never got past the heavy bag, that they weren't comfortable with him even getting in the ring.

If that's true, the defense can call them, and in closing point out how the prosecution tried to insinuate something, then tried to hide the witness who would undermine it.

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Re: Week 2, 3rd Day, 7/3/13
« Reply #86 on: July 03, 2013, 02:23:30 PM »
In a homicide case in which the body is examined by an ME, does the ME ever not testify? I think the count of the talking heads was off. There will be Dr. Bao, and Sybrina, at least. Nelson said said she will go late, so they can be accommodated.

She did say late, but honestly--do you see the ME getting off the stand quickly? It's almost 4:30 now...I think she'll be forced to call a halt before Sybrina.

But what do I know.

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Re: Week 2, 3rd Day, 7/3/13
« Reply #87 on: July 03, 2013, 02:24:52 PM »
If that's true, the defense can call them, and in closing point out how the prosecution tried to insinuate something, then tried to hide the witness who would undermine it.

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Don't tell me you haven't read that material?

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Re: Week 2, 3rd Day, 7/3/13
« Reply #88 on: July 03, 2013, 02:39:22 PM »
Don't tell me you haven't read that material?

I did, when it first came out. I didn't make notes on it.
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Re: Week 2, 3rd Day, 7/3/13
« Reply #89 on: July 03, 2013, 02:41:33 PM »
She did say late, but honestly--do you see the ME getting off the stand quickly?

Possibly. I don't know what he will say that the defense would want to challenge, except possibly TM's height.

 

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