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Adam Pollock, Owner of Kokopelli's Gym, 7/8/13
« on: July 08, 2013, 12:36:07 PM »
About 2:30 PM.

O'Mara on direct, asking about kickboxing and MMA.

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Re: Adam Pollock, Owner of Kokopelli's Gym, 7/8/13
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2013, 12:36:53 PM »
AP describing MMA.

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Re: Adam Pollock, Owner of Kokopelli's Gym, 7/8/13
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2013, 12:37:35 PM »
AP explaining 'ground and pound'. He said he hasn't practiced MMA itself.

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Re: Adam Pollock, Owner of Kokopelli's Gym, 7/8/13
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2013, 12:38:58 PM »
What is ground and pound?  How do you get the opponent on the ground?  Well, first you get them there, then you keep them there, then you strike downwards.  (zen)

Is there an art to get in the first blow to control a match?  Yes.  What do you do and how do you do it? 

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Re: Adam Pollock, Owner of Kokopelli's Gym, 7/8/13
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2013, 12:41:42 PM »
This is similar to describing chess by going through "all the possible games" that can be played.  There are all sorts of starts, moves, and endings.  Too many to go through in a coherent summary.

Witness is going to demonstrate a mounted position with O'Mara on the bottom.  O'Mara asks for the signals to stop.  Either tap, or yell "stop."
« Last Edit: July 08, 2013, 12:44:04 PM by cboldt »

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Re: Adam Pollock, Owner of Kokopelli's Gym, 7/8/13
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2013, 12:47:59 PM »
AP: GZ chose his classes based on scheduling rather than his interests. When he first joined he wanted to do boxing, but no available class fit his schedule.

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Re: Adam Pollock, Owner of Kokopelli's Gym, 7/8/13
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2013, 12:51:02 PM »
Did I hear correctly?  On a scale of 1-10, Zimmerman was less than a 1? as far as capability in grappling.

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Re: Adam Pollock, Owner of Kokopelli's Gym, 7/8/13
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2013, 12:51:17 PM »
AP: On an athleticism scale of 1-10, GZ on joining gym was a 0.5.

O'Mara gave AP the use of last names talk.

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Re: Adam Pollock, Owner of Kokopelli's Gym, 7/8/13
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2013, 12:53:17 PM »
Did I hear correctly?  On a scale of 1-10, Zimmerman was less than a 1? as far as capability in grappling.

General athletic accomplishment is what I understood. AP was talking about the difference between someone involved in a variety of athletic activities in childhood, vs. someone reaching adulthood without much athletic experience.

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Re: Adam Pollock, Owner of Kokopelli's Gym, 7/8/13
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2013, 12:54:42 PM »
AP: GZ was a good student, diligent and pleasant to work with, but he had a lot of ground to make up.

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Re: Adam Pollock, Owner of Kokopelli's Gym, 7/8/13
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2013, 12:57:47 PM »
AP: His gym requires a certain level of skill before a person competes in a ring. GZ never reached that level. He hadn't learned to punch.

Q: Had GZ reached the level of being able to box someone else?

AP: Absolutely not.

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Re: Adam Pollock, Owner of Kokopelli's Gym, 7/8/13
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2013, 12:59:08 PM »
Q: When GZ joined gym, was he grossly obese?

AP: Absolutely.

AP: GZ made good progress losing weight.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2013, 01:01:24 PM by nomatter_nevermind »

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Re: Adam Pollock, Owner of Kokopelli's Gym, 7/8/13
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2013, 12:59:50 PM »
From 0.5 to about a "1."  It takes a lot of work/practice to become proficient.  Zimmerman was diligent, coachable, just didn't have the athleticism, childhood athletics.

O'Mara asks about boxing.  First, get comfortable with your own body, how to control their body.  Footwork, calisthenics.  Also a 0.5 on the 1-10 boxing scale.  He was a hard worker, but it takes a certain amount of time to develop.  People with good athleticism are ring ready in 1-2 years.  Zimmerman never got in the ring.  He wasn't skilled enough.  Zimmerman never got past shadow boxing and heavy bag, he did not know how to punch.  Absolutely not at a point where he could box somebody else.

He progressed little beyond 0.5 on boxing.  Physically better as to body weight, but lacked athleticism.  Grossly obese.

Did he ever get to kick boxing?  No.  First has to be able to box.  Zimmerman did not have a handle on punching.

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Re: Adam Pollock, Owner of Kokopelli's Gym, 7/8/13
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2013, 01:03:34 PM »
AP said he saw GZ not long after shooting. After asking about his appearance, O'Mara asked about something GZ said.

Objection, hearsay, sidebar.

Looks like O'Mara lost. He went back to asking about GZ's athleticism. AP said he isn't athletic.

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Re: Adam Pollock, Owner of Kokopelli's Gym, 7/8/13
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2013, 01:04:25 PM »
O'Mara asks him to describe GZ's athleticism

AP says "non-athletic",  "soft, physically soft...not a lot of muscle, not a lot of strength"

 

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