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Offline nomatter_nevermind

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Tracy Martin, 7/8/13
« on: July 08, 2013, 01:53:55 PM »
3:51 PM

Tracy sworn.

O'Mara on direct.

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Re: Tracy Martin, 7/8/13
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2013, 01:54:32 PM »
Why in the world...?


But hey, good call NM. I think your entire week's prediction has happened today.  :)

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Re: Tracy Martin, 7/8/13
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2013, 01:55:48 PM »
Doesn't make sense to me either unless they have something I am unaware of. 

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Re: Tracy Martin, 7/8/13
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2013, 01:56:43 PM »
Doesn't make sense to me either unless they have something I am unaware of.

"Did you ever tell your attorney..."

They did depo Crump yesterday didn't they? I wonder....

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Re: Tracy Martin, 7/8/13
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2013, 01:57:04 PM »
O'Mara asking about his response to whether he recognized TM's voice on the tape

Tracy Martin hedges his answer slightly, says he doesn't remember the question as being 'is this your son', says the questions was more along the lines of 'do you recognize the voice' says he didn't give an unequivocal answer describes his response as moving back in his chair and shaking his head more in an emotional fashion.

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Re: Tracy Martin, 7/8/13
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2013, 01:57:20 PM »
Tracy: He answered Serino 'I can't tell', or words to that effect. He didn't know Singleton was there, didn't see her in the room. He did not ask to hear the call again. He never heard anything about a 'cleaned up' version of the tape. He never told anyone he listened to a 'cleaned up' version. He has no knowledge of an 'enhanced' version.

ETA: He also said something to the effect that every time he heard the call, as far as he knew it was the same version of the recording.
« Last Edit: July 08, 2013, 02:00:05 PM by nomatter_nevermind »

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Re: Tracy Martin, 7/8/13
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2013, 01:58:50 PM »
Martin says that it took him listening to it about 20 times to recognize his sons voice.

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Re: Tracy Martin, 7/8/13
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2013, 01:59:19 PM »
Tracy denies saying the voice was not Trayvon.  He says that he said something like "No, I don't know."

He says he did not see Singleton in the room.  Did you ever tell anybody you listened to a cleaned up version?  No.  Or an enhanced version?  Did you ever tell Sybrina Fulton that you had listened to the recording at Serino's desk?  No.  No particular reason, lots going on.

He was at the mayor's office playing. Did not tell anybody what was going to be played, because everybody knew they were there to listen to the recordings.  After listening to the recording about 20 times, he said he thought it was Trayvon's voice.  Did not listen to it between Serino's office and the listening at the mayor's office.

Cross exam by Bernardo.

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Re: Tracy Martin, 7/8/13
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2013, 02:00:44 PM »
Martin says that it took him listening to it about 20 times to recognize his sons voice.

He talked himself into it. I hope the jury heard that clearly.

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Re: Tracy Martin, 7/8/13
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2013, 02:02:10 PM »
"Did you ever tell your attorney..."

They did depo Crump yesterday didn't they? I wonder....

After thinking about it, maybe they put him on to see if would mention TM's character.

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Re: Tracy Martin, 7/8/13
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2013, 02:02:52 PM »
Tracy comes off a fairly direct.  Not hesitant, tries to answer the questions.  Not fidgeting, not disrespectful, no rolling eyes or anything like that.

Bernardo getting into timing other than listening to the voice recording.  When did he first get a report of Trayvon's death, etc.  Also mentally replaying the learning details, which is an emotional event - showed you pictures of your son's body on the ground.  Objection by O'Mara.

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Re: Tracy Martin, 7/8/13
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2013, 02:04:08 PM »
Of course, they'd never lose money betting that Bernie was going to open some sort of door for them.

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Re: Tracy Martin, 7/8/13
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2013, 02:04:37 PM »
He talked himself into it. I hope the jury heard that clearly.

Yeah it definitely sounded that way.  It's pretty clear that there wasn't a visceral moment of recognition.

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Re: Tracy Martin, 7/8/13
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2013, 02:06:41 PM »
Doesn't make sense to me either unless they have something I am unaware of.

Maybe a small gamble.  If Tracy admits that he said "no" to the voice being Trayvon, then the defense has a solid reason that the state didn't call Tracy.  If he doesn't admit to saying "no," add him to the scale with Sybrina on voice, and whatever emotional heartstrings Bernardo can pull with Tracy on the stand.

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Re: Tracy Martin, 7/8/13
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2013, 02:08:15 PM »
Of course, they'd never lose money betting that Bernie was going to open some sort of door for them.

It's a risk free activity for the prosecution.  The judge is there to close the door behind them.

 

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