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Re: State's First Closing Argument
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2013, 01:17:17 PM »
I think it has been a very weak closing argument so. Bernie has repeatedly misstated facts. He has only scored a few points, and he has failed to connect them into a coherent narrative.

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Re: State's First Closing Argument
« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2013, 01:21:46 PM »
Says interview shows GZ knew there was no camera at RATL and refers to Serino having implied there might be a camera. Suggests it shows he is lying. (Doesn't mention that Serino told him TM might have a camera, not that the complex might have one.)

If he was in fear, why did he get out the car?

Speaks in a mocking tone, mimicking GZ, drawing out each word very long.

Repeats the three street meme again and says he walks his dog on that street.

Changed that the guy came out of the bushes, he catches himself. Says he said he was going towards TM and then catches himself and says TM came out from the bushes. Came out of nowhere.

O'Mara objects to him misstating the law and making improper reference to GZ's statements.


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Re: State's First Closing Argument
« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2013, 01:23:22 PM »
Plays part of interview where he says he felt TM reaching for the gun.

Says TM had one hand over mouth, one over nose, and his third hand is going for his gun. Does that makes sense?


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Re: State's First Closing Argument
« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2013, 01:25:01 PM »
Shows jury GZ's gun and holster. Says it was not on side towards front, but on sides towards back.

How did the victim see the gun? Is that another lie?

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Re: State's First Closing Argument
« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2013, 01:25:56 PM »
He didn't realize he shot the victim? Why is he holstering his gun if he's so scared? Or is that just police jargon. That's what police are taught.
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Re: State's First Closing Argument
« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2013, 01:27:29 PM »
"Skittles that he didn't even steal."

I wonder if anybody in the courtroom had to suppress a smile.

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Re: State's First Closing Argument
« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2013, 01:28:03 PM »
He told the officer he didn't realize he shot the victim. Why is holstering his gun if he's so scared? Or is that just police jargon. That's what police are taught.

Plays GZ saying, "They always come around at nighttime."

That's the assumption he made at the beginning when he profiled TM who had skittles, skittles he didn't even steal. You saw photos of 7-11. He didn't instill fear in the clerk because he was wearing a hoodie.

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Re: State's First Closing Argument
« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2013, 01:30:14 PM »
Bernie's ratcheting up the crazy now. Maybe he's sensing the desperation like everyone else.


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Re: State's First Closing Argument
« Reply #53 on: July 11, 2013, 01:30:20 PM »
Plays: "When I walked backed towards him"

He's the one who is aggressor. He was pursuing the victim. But he catches himself and makes it that TM confronted him. He makes up the story about reaching for the phone.


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Re: State's First Closing Argument
« Reply #54 on: July 11, 2013, 01:32:58 PM »
Talks about GZ's injuries. He refused to go have x-rays.

Who was following who? Who started fight?

Shows picture of GZ at station. Circles shoes in pictures. Says there's some grass. Maybe GZ was on top of Martin some of the time.

How small were the lacerations? Why are his hands uninjured if a 17 year old is whaling on him, how come he's not defending himself?

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Re: State's First Closing Argument
« Reply #55 on: July 11, 2013, 01:33:59 PM »
Bernie's ratcheting up the crazy now. Maybe he's sensing the desperation like everyone else.

"When is the story going to end?"
- My four year old

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Re: State's First Closing Argument
« Reply #56 on: July 11, 2013, 01:34:46 PM »
He's trying to make up one lie after another.

I didn't know the name of the street I was on.
I had already gone to the dog walk, and he came out of the bushes and hit me.

Help, he's killing me.

And then this criminal put his hand over my mouth and said you're going to die tonight.

He's got that training, he knows what he has to say.

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Re: State's First Closing Argument
« Reply #57 on: July 11, 2013, 01:36:11 PM »
He's trying to make up one lie after another.


Are you describing Bernie or quoting Bernie?

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Re: State's First Closing Argument
« Reply #58 on: July 11, 2013, 01:38:35 PM »
He's mocking GZ's version of events as they are being played.

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Re: State's First Closing Argument
« Reply #59 on: July 11, 2013, 01:39:31 PM »
Are you describing Bernie or quoting Bernie?

I'm recounting what Bernie says.

 

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