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State's Closing Rebuttal
« on: July 12, 2013, 10:09:31 AM »
Guy started about 12:05 PM

Talking about 'human heart' and a dark, rainy night. The thinks he's a poet.

TM a 'child' again.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2013, 10:13:37 AM »
OMG.... so sinister...  so evil.....  "all of the lies he told"  "all of them"  ...............if theatrics do it for the jury.......then Guy is doing ot for them.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2013, 10:14:17 AM »
I don't think Guy has made a single point he didn't make in the opening statement. He hasn't begun to touch O'Mara's arguments. You might think he doesn't know there is such a person.


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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2013, 10:16:30 AM »
Not yelling. Doing some weird guttural growl and whisper thing.

Oops. Now he's yelling. Never mind.


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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2013, 10:16:40 AM »
All the lies, All the lies...

After months of people getting away...  that's why that guy got out of the car.

If he really wanted to help the police, he would have driven to the back gate... what he always told the police they did.  But he didn't do that.

Trayvon Martin may not have the blood of Zimmerman on his hands, but Zimmerman will forever have Martin's blood on his hands..

More lies, more lies, so many lies...

Can't keep up with it all ..

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2013, 10:17:17 AM »
Guy repeated a variation of Bernie's claim that GZ said the suspicious people always escaped through the back. He argued GZ would have gone in his car to meet the police at the back gate if he didn't have bad intentions, or something like that. I forget the exact words.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2013, 10:18:12 AM »
And Zimmerman's heart is reflected in "fscking punks."

As O'Mara predicted, Guy is just calling Zimmerman a liar based on the inconsistencies.  Why isn't Guy providing a clear trail of evidence for his theory of the case? Rhetorical question.

Emotional ploys.

Interesting to me, this sort of play out was predicted and discussed in detail, before Zimmerman was even charged.  Meaning that the evidence doesn't support a charge.  It takes bogus legal arguments or conjecture to find guilt.

The dead deserve the truth, says Guy.

Guy is going to tell us what happened after Zimmerman hung up with NEN.  "What was Zimmerman doing for those two minutes?"  That's his answer? A question?

Use your common sense, use your heart.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2013, 10:19:23 AM »
Guy said four minutes wasn't the time TM had to run home, it was the time he had to live. The arithmetic is off, and the point is a red herring.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2013, 10:21:02 AM »


Use your common sense, use your heart.

Check in your intelligence, brains and deductive ability outside the door

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2013, 10:24:42 AM »
Martin has every right to be afraid.  Every child's worst nightmare, being followed by a stranger, etc.  Yeah, sure, "he's starting at me, he's got his hands in his waistband, sh!t, now he's running."  Full of fear, sure.

If Martin had been mounted on Zimmerman, as Zimmerman claims, Zimmerman could not have gotten the gun.  Try it in the jury room. (that'll backfire, Martin's legs aren't necessarily tight against the sides of Zimmerman's body).  Guys says he isn't going to show the jury on the mannequin (doll).

Why would Zimmerman go through, past the T, if he lost sight of Martin.  There is no reason.  (well, use some conjecture, connect those dots, maybe Zimmerman is looking down a street that has some street lights for a glimpse of a fleeing Martin).

If was yelling help, why wasn't he hoarse afterwards?

This isn't self defense, this is self denial.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2013, 10:29:45 AM »
PowerPoint presentation of Zimmerman lies.

Guy insinuates that Zimmerman's head didn't hit concrete.

Didn't Martin have a right to defend himself too? just dropped there in the middle of a rant about Zimmerman 's injuries.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2013, 10:32:55 AM »
Guy said TM 'fighting for his life', at the same moment he was supposed to be trying to get away when Guy was on the doll.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2013, 10:33:32 AM »
Do you think if Martin had seen the gun, the shot would hit Martin in the middle of his chest?

Guy challenges the jury to compare the NEN and walkthrough because they can't be reconciled.

This case is not about stand your ground, it is stay in your car.  ROTFL.  Yes, he said that.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2013, 10:35:58 AM »
On the whole...Bernie was better.

This guy's watched way too many hours of bad lawyer shows.


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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2013, 10:36:34 AM »

George could have ONLY reached for the gun if Trayvon had gotten up?

Now they're suggesting he retreated from delivering the beat down on Zimmerman?

I thought he'd try to go there.

It's so hard listening and watching Guy

 

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