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Offline nomatter_nevermind

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2013, 10:56:16 AM »
12:53 PM.

Guy stood down.

Nelson asked jurors if they wanted instructions before or after lunch. After.

Nelson read admonitions.

12:54 PM.

Jury dismissed for lunch.

Sidebar.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2013, 10:56:28 AM »
ETA: Both the WFTV talking heads thought the sidebar was because Guy had gone over time.

They were wrong.  It was because Guy was making a point of law in a way that O'Mara took as misleading, and O'Mara objected.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2013, 10:57:01 AM »
Lawyers are still in sidebar.

Talking heads on WESH giving Guy a tongue bath. Doesn't seem like we were watching the same event.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2013, 10:59:11 AM »
12:58 PM.

Recess until 2:00 PM.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2013, 11:01:21 AM »
Thanks again for the recaps, all.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2013, 11:01:32 AM »
Talking heads on WESH giving Guy a tongue bath. Doesn't seem like we were watching the same event.

That's been the case since March last year.  Nothing the press has reported on this case is accurate, and the opinions are driven by agenda.  And the jury disrespects the press, if we believe what we heard during voir dire.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2013, 11:02:36 AM »
Your verdict won't bring Martin back to life, but will forever define you.

And here's hoping that definition won't read:

"See Denny, Reginald"

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #37 on: July 12, 2013, 11:04:16 AM »
That's been the case since March last year.  Nothing the press has reported on this case is accurate, and the opinions are driven by agenda.  And the jury disrespects the press, if we believe what we heard during voir dire.

Except for a handful of LCD types...who doesn't disrespect the press?


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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2013, 11:19:54 AM »
Nothing the press has reported on this case is accurate, and the opinions are driven by agenda.

Since the case has been in trial, it seems to me the majority of TV legal experts have been saying the defense is winning. Mostly they have also been saying that both sides are doing a good job, which is not my opinion. I think the state has been playing a weak hand badly. But IANAL, just someone who would like to serve on a jury but probably never will.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2013, 11:23:22 AM »
Since the case has been in trial, it seems to me the majority of TV legal experts have been saying the defense is winning. Mostly they have also been saying that both sides are doing a good job, which is not my opinion. I think the state has been playing a weak hand badly. But IANAL, just someone who would like to serve on a jury but probably never will.

Yeah...I'm pretty sure that would be a disqualification right there!  ;D ;D

Maybe if Ricky gets his way and we have professional juries?
 ;)

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #40 on: July 12, 2013, 11:41:41 AM »
Looking back over Twitter.

Christina Vasquez says Shellie Z. 'blinks back tears' when Guy was saying TM had every right to defend himself.

Rene Stutzman: 'Jurors seem completely captivated by John Guy.'


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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #41 on: July 12, 2013, 11:43:29 AM »
Rene Stutzman: 'Jurors seem completely captivated by John Guy.'

I would wager that she is projecting.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #42 on: July 12, 2013, 11:52:09 AM »
I would wager that she is projecting.

Maybe. Some of her other tweets suggest she's not impressed with the rebuttal.

'Lot's of drama and indignation from John Guy but no evidence.'

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #43 on: July 12, 2013, 11:57:26 AM »
Before lunch one of the WFTV talking heads, the anchor/interviewer guy, said one of the jurors teared up at some point in the rebuttal. I don't recall if he named a source.

Schaeffer said that's never a good sign, but I doubt it means anything. Many people can empathize with parents losing a child, and Guy was pulling out all the emotional stops. IIRC all but one of the jurors is a mother.

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Re: State's Closing Rebuttal
« Reply #44 on: July 12, 2013, 11:58:17 AM »
Rene Stutzman: 'Jurors seem completely captivated by John Guy.'
And lots of motorists seem completely captivated by bad car wrecks.

 

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