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From Duke 64:
When you were busy holding feet to the fire, did you notice that all of those feet were white? Your "community" should accept some responsibility for its actions. I'm no racist, and I'm certainly no conservative, but I am long past tired of your act.
Apparently you're past tired, and well down the road to deep sleep, because you're wrong everywhere. When the New Black Panthers came to town to rally last May, I reported the following:
"So concerned were Durham community leaders about the Panthers’ visit, that some issued cautionary statements, fearing that the group could incite violence in an already tense atmosphere.
Calling the New Black Panthers ‘the purveyors of hate,’ Rev. William Barber, president of the NC NAACP, issued a statement Monday charging, “agitation with a message of hate toward other minorities or anyone is wrong. You cannot fight hate with hate. You cannot fight misogyny and Isexual violence with vigilantism.”
NCCU Chancellor James Ammons also issued a statement, days earlier, saying that while, “we all have the freedom to voice our opinions and views…” the Panthers should not be allowed, “…to divide our community
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Furthermore, i have a transcript of AG Cooper's remarks from last week. I'm looking it over now....no...no...I don't see it...I ...don't see where....no, I don't see where he blamed Durham's African-American community for "knowing" with certainty that Mike Nifong was a white prosecutor crazy enough to try and frame the children of three well-connected white families, with the help of the Durham Police Dept., and think he could get away with it.
I'm looklng...I'm looking...no, I also don't see where Cooper said anything about holding the Black community responsible for anything. Afterall, if we're only 40 percent of Durham proper, and one third of the voter registration rolls, them that means no matter how you cut it, the majority of Democrats who voted Nifong in twice were white, not Black. So no, it seems that based on what you're alleging, the SPs, after a thorough 12-week investigation, found no evidence to support.
Gee, I guess this means we're 'innocent." Fancy that, 84!
From ding 7777:
Is this how you lessen the shock of the accuser's lack of credibility? By inferring that Precious was sodomized with a broomstick?
I indicated earlier that there were questions the Black community wanted answers to. Since the absence of DNA was first established a year ago, and a broom handle figured prominently into the case at the party, and the father tolf MSNBC about the alleged use of a broomstick in am alleged assault, that question was very much on the table even up to December. So not until a trusted, officlal source could reasonably take that question off the table,n it was still being asked.
Remember, I'm not writing to answer your questions, or pose your questions. And while it may disburb that African-Americans had questions that leaned more towards guilt than innocence, that did not mean we didn't have the right to ask them. And we did.
Go back and view the tape. Kristen Hunter references her (unrelated) remarks with a " ...as Chan said". Will you still deny that Chan said anything publicly at the forum?
I was there and you were not. Chan Hall never took his behind over to a microphone to say anything...period! If he did, trust me, with over 100 reporters there from all over the country, he would have been on everybody's newscast that evening at that forum. Sorry to disappoint.
From MikeKell:
The problem was, Nifong didn't want to hear what the players had to say if it didn't fit his theory and objectives. This is not a new development.
Good, good, then we should be able to secure the statements to the police of the players and nonplayers at the party BEYOND the co-captains that lived there very shortly, now that the investigation has ended. I can't wait to read those many, many statements from 2006, because any from 2007 don't apply. MikeKell, promise me if you see them first, that you'll share! Promise?
From Lousy 1:
they have be trained form birth to believe that their is some evil force that has conspired to make them lifelong victims based soley on their skin pigmentation. This self serving paranoia is nutured by "Black" media like cash. Cash I hope you have a lot of pictures for filler. Maybe a coloring book?.
If you lend me one of your Raggedy Ann meets Bingo Barbie Special Editions, I'm sure I'll have more than enouigh material in the chapter about you. Given your inane comments, apparently you were one of Imus' most loyal listeners. Kind of hard to be paranoid when the German military isses training videos where the instructor tells the trainee with the gun to make believe he's shooting Black people. I'm sure you have your copy. Probaly a special edition as well, eh?
From cpamba:
You completely missed the point. There is a very real and tragic story unfolding about how a rogue DA and a group of enablers, including members of the DPD, attempted to railroad three innocent players. THAT is the story. And it is probably not an isolated incident. Why wouldn't you think there are Blacks in prison right now because of similar prosecutorial abuse?
I haven't missed a damned thing, cpamba. I've gotten the falsely accused out of prison, and helped to acquit in court, and each one looked like me. So stow the civil lesson. YOU are the one late to the party. What made this case so weird is that the defendants were well-to-do white boys from well-connected families. NO prosecutor with any sense goes after folks like that WITHOUT having his sh-t totally together. It's unheard of. Why do you think everyone is doing all of the post mortems now? Trying to figure out why Nifong thought he could possibly get away with this, given the legal firepower he was up against, and the total lack of evidence he possessed.
I've done more than my share of "wrongly convicted and sent to prison" stories. I was the last reporterto interview Dawud Muhammad in 1999 before they put him to death for a double murder he swore until they put the needles in that he did not commit. And there was serious prosecutorial misconduct in that case.
So don't preach that yang to me, cpamba. You're just getting to this issue. I've been here for years. What Nifong pulled was unique because he was dumb enough to call attention to himself, and that normally doesn't happen. He had no record of pulling garbage like this before in his 27 years on the job. Even the LAX defense attorneys were shocked by his weird behavior. There was no warning about this. Clearly he seemed safe enough to be recommended to the governor to serve in the interim. So what seemed crystal clear to you and yours, wasn't for people who actually knew the man, and couldn't figure out what he was doing.
By the way, I've found my purpose, and this isn't my hometown. So get your facts straight!
The last thing I need to be lectured on by a Duke Three poster is Blacks and the criminal justice system. Geez!
Posted by: Trinity Rez
What I would like to know is would Cash and his community have acted the same if the race roles were reversed?
That should tell you all you need to know. Imus is a perfect example. How many blacks call whites crackers or make fun of red necks with no outrage? It is the hypocrisy that makes me sick.
And apparently that malady has been with you for a while, Rez. you act as if there has never been an allegation of Black male raping white female. Funny, I don't recall much ruckus being raised about the Black suspect they've arrested and charged for the alleged assault on the Duke student. Defending him is not high on my list of prioriities, I assure you. Haven't heard a peep out of the NBPP either.
Guess you have your answer, Rez. But I really admire how you stick up for all of the rednecks and crackers. I would expect no less.
C
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quote author=Lousy1 link=topic=1480.msg75528#msg75528 date=1176671652] And who do you think anyone would give a sh*t about your forthcoming book about "why Blacks asked the questions they asked"?
The answer: Because they have be trained form birth to believe that their is some evil force that has conspired to make them lifelong victims based solely on their skin pigmentation. This self serving paranoia is nurtured by "Black" media like cash. Cash I hope you have a lot of pictures for filler. Maybe a coloring book? [/quote] Posted on: Today at 09:09:04 PMPosted by: cashmichaels If you lend me one of your Raggedy Ann meets Bingo Barbie Special Editions, I'm sure I'll have more than enouigh material in the chapter about you. Given your inane comments, apparently you were one of Imus' most loyal listeners. Kind of hard to be paranoid when the German military isses training videos where the instructor tells the trainee with the gun to make believe he's shooting Black people. I'm sure you have your copy. Probaly a special edition as well, eh? Respectfully, you are an idiot. You know nothing about me. I am appalled by your smears. I looked carefully at my calender and it is 2007 not 1937. Imus's race pandering ( if that's what is was) does not excuse yours. Why can't you respond to substance without playing to emotion? PS. Please refrain from quoting me out of context.
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cashmichaels
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from lousy !:
Please refrain from quoting me out of context.
yeah, right!
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from lousy !:
Please refrain from quoting me out of context.
yeah, right!
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cpamba, to cash michaels: You completely missed the point.
Cash gets the point. He just avoids it. The story here was a mentally ill woman with a substance abuse problem who created a story about being gang-raped in order to stay out of the drunk tank and a corrupt prosecutor, aided by a corrupt police department. There will be people who want to know all about this facts of this story. For the others, there's Cash.
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Duke 84
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Got me good there, Cash.
What a tribute to your profession you are.
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You know nothing about me.
You've published quite a bit, Lousy. People can read. |
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cashmichaels
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Actualy, Lousy 1, "yeah right" was another way of my saying, "Don't hold your breath!" Are we clear now?
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I indicated earlier that there were questions the Black community wanted answers to. Since the absence of DNA was first established a year ago, and a broom handle figured prominently into the case at the party, and the father tolf MSNBC about the alleged use of a broomstick in am alleged assault, that question was very much on the table even up to December. So not until a trusted, officlal source could reasonably take that question off the table,n it was still being asked. I don't see how you can argue that the matter of the broomstick was still "on the table." By December, most of the key elements that were part of Cooper's exoneration were already well known: Crystal's many mutually contradictory stories, the lack of DNA evidence, the impossible timelines, Seligman's alibi...the broomstick had been a sideshow for months. And Cash, you yourself wrote long before December that Nifong had "nothing" based (as I understand it) on your review of the discovery file. Remember, I'm not writing to answer your questions, or pose your questions. And while it may disburb that African-Americans had questions that leaned more towards guilt than innocence, that did not mean we didn't have the right to ask them. And we did. For my part, I'm even more troubled by the several quotes from NCCU students that I heard in the wake of Cooper's announcement, all to the effect that the outcome was rigged. That evinces a mindset wherein belief triumphs over reason -- or perhaps over willingness to reason -- and that does not bode well for the future. (And it doesn't help that Irving Joyner and Rev. Barber refuse to accurately characterize Cooper's unmistakable public statements on the Duke Three's innocence.) For all the talk of "healing" that we've been hearing, I wonder if what's actually going on isn't the further solidification of anti-white sentiment. What Nifong pulled was unique because he was dumb enough to call attention to himself, and that normally doesn't happen. Well, he was doing it to get elected, so he didn't have much choice about going public. You're right, though, it wasn't a good move on his part. |
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From MikeKell:
The problem was, Nifong didn't want to hear what the players had to say if it didn't fit his theory and objectives. This is not a new development.
Good, good, then we should be able to secure the statements to the police of the players and nonplayers at the party BEYOND the co-captains that lived there very shortly, now that the investigation has ended. I can't wait to read those many, many statements from 2006, because any from 2007 don't apply. MikeKell, promise me if you see them first, that you'll share! Promise? C: Answer your yahoo mail and you wish will be granted. We need to get the discussion going, and you suggested mail. I wrote and haven't heard back. Mike |
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cashmichaels
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from Duke 84:
What a tribute to your profession you are.
As I'm sure you are too, regardless of what it is supposed to be.
C
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from MikeKell:
C: Answer your yahoo mail and you wish will be granted. We need to get the discussion going, and you suggested mail. I wrote and haven't heard back.
Maybe that's because it didn't arrive yet. What did you do, send it to yourself in hopes that I wouold come over and tuck you in/ send the thing again if it's worth reading (doubtful).
C
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You know nothing about me.
You've published quite a bit, Lousy. People can read. Over 2000 posts. So please cite any racist, Nazi or white supremacists posts that I have penned. Support your vile accusations. Please remember I have never revealed my racial identity because it is not relevant. |
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from MikeKell:
C: Answer your yahoo mail and you wish will be granted. We need to get the discussion going, and you suggested mail. I wrote and haven't heard back.
Maybe that's because it didn't arrive yet. What did you do, send it to yourself in hopes that I wouold come over and tuck you in/ send the thing again if it's worth reading (doubtful).
C
Wow Cash. Your the epitome of class. Or maybe I'm thinking "crass"? Or just plain old "ass". Yeah, that's the one. |
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