Three Part Essay on the Duke Lacrosse Case

[JoanOfDark]

Re: Liestoppers' Bill Anderson has published  an in depth analytical counterreview of the Nation's  review of  K.C.Johnson.

One of the many declarations Bill Anderson makes in this review is:

Although McFadyen apologized repeatedly for the private email that came into play only after it illegally was hacked by an unknown (to us, anyway) person, police tried to pressure him to testify untruthfully against the other players by dangling the prospect of publicizing the email and publicly humiliating him.

Has Bill Anderson ever been able to support his declaration that the MCcFadyen email "illegally was hacked by an unknown..."?

[MarkRougemont]

Re: Liestoppers' Bill Anderson has published  an in depth analytical counterreview of the Nation's  review of  K.C.Johnson.

One of the many declarations Bill Anderson makes in this review is:

Although McFadyen apologized repeatedly for the private email that came into play only after it illegally was hacked by an unknown (to us, anyway) person, police tried to pressure him to testify untruthfully against the other players by dangling the prospect of publicizing the email and publicly humiliating him.

Has Bill Anderson ever been able to support his declaration that the MCcFadyen email "illegally was hacked by an unknown..."?

Not sure about that one Joan, but in certain circles that accusation seems to be accepted as fact just as the Consortium of Conspirators is accepted as proven because, well just because they said so.  It is unfortunate that you require proof before belief, Joan, just take it on faith.  The AG said the players are innocent, it just follows that anybody who doubted them or wanted to wait for our system of justice to play out, must be guilty of something.

[MarkRougemont]

"Apparently the powers that be at Liestoppers decided that if they had to restart their forums from scratch they could at least make lemonade from lemons by keeping certain “predictable annoyers” out of the ranks"

Zimmerman's latest:

http://reharmonized.an-earful.com/2008/06/slaves-to-the-metanarrative/

There is also a previous one commenting on the 'loony' Butler column.

[Sydney Carton]

   
     Really ,Mark,I can't for the live of me understand why you would want to associate with such horrible people as the liestoppers when you enjoy unlimited  freedom  of  association  with the men and women whose lies are being stopped.
   I sent a very polite and succinct note to Zipperman  pointing out three  examples of criminal abuse of minors committed by the perpetrators of the Duke Rape Fraud and approved  tacitly or overtly  by numerous of his close associates. He simply reconfirmed in "rebuttal "that he regarded teenaged male white Caucassians as fair game for a murderous twenty-eight year old,drug saturated, whore.
   And,oh,yes,Zipperman now charges that a "smooch" has been given by the mere fact that we referenced   a detailed chronicling of RZ's prior mendacities.Bobbie boy,just carry  on like this and such ardent Crystal admirers as  Sam Hummel ,Cousin Jackie,and PB will have your blocked from their favorite web sites.
   The recent "rebuttal" is noted, was persued in "depth"  and has been found  morally,intellectually,and factuallly destitute of any foundation whatsoever  on each and every count.
  You have genrerously  been accorded five months of our time,Bobbie Boy,henceforth confine your attentions to what iis left of your admirers among the much reduced group of "88"- and other denizens of the night.
   The comedy is ended.
 
 
 
   
   

[MarkRougemont]

   
     Really ,Mark,I can't for the live of me understand why you would want to associate with such horrible people as the liestoppers when you enjoy unlimited  freedom  of  association  with the men and women whose lies are being stopped. 

I don't think you are one of those 'horrible people', Sydney.  Not do I think Zimmerman is 'horrible' either. 

[LTC8K9]

Has Bill Anderson ever been able to support his declaration that the MCcFadyen email "illegally was hacked by an unknown..."?

I would think there would be more interest in other parts of that quote from Bill.

At any rate, we know how DPD claims to have heard about and received the email, so what's the mystery? The differing stories on that are not new to anyone following the case.

If it wasn't illegally obtained, then why the mystery about how it was obtained, and why publish it out of context?

The email was taken out of context and published to put pressure on McFadyen, pure and simple. It had no other use to DPD.

Why else publish it that way when you know it had nothing to do with a gang rape, which DPD surely knew?

It's like asking the court for the player's key card data well after you have somehow already been given the key card data...which you aren't supposed to have...

Laws were broken left and right by DPD, DUMC, DUPD, and DU. So what's the big deal about getting an email illegally?

Is it supposed to be a stretch for this bunch?

[Sydney Carton]

    LTC8K9:
      (snip)
    The email was taken out of context and published to put pressure on McFadyen, pure and simple. It had no other use to DPD.

Why else publish it that way when you know it had nothing to do with a gang rape, which DPD surely knew?

It's like asking the court for the player's key card data well after you have somehow already been given the key card data...which you aren't supposed to have...

Laws were broken left and right by DPD, DUMC, DUPD, and DU. So what's the big deal about getting an email illegally?

Is it supposed to be a stretch for this bunch?
 SC:
   We might also clue them ,LTC,on another lesser known fact that recently emerged  during the continuing civil pleadings ;there were no less than thirty replies to Ryan McF's e-mail.These in and of themselves  show  that (a) Ryan's letter was recognized by everyone as a raunchy joke and (b) from the character of the thirty responses  it was obvious that no rape or other physical damage had accrued to the vengeful,thieving,strippers.
   Not even Gottlieb or Nifong could ,after seeing the whole correspondence ,could  have honestly  believed  there had been any gangbang.
   If the Durham LE doesn't weasel out  on an immunity plea,these e-mails should be sufficent in themselves to win the kids a massive judgment for malicious prosecution.

[Sydney Carton]

   Actually, despite Professor Zimmerman's unflattering barbs directed at  your humble and assuming commentator,I thoroughly urge our readers to revisit his web site. There,finally, actually, is a meaningful exchange between RZ,Mark and Joan Foster.Definitely required and rewarding reading for anyone who has followed the blogging on this case!